that would be a good question. sounds like they did someone a favor. maybe in return for something? but what? i dont think anyone would tell us. the mysterious ways of life. doesnt matter i guess.

Maybe the clan doesn't, but the votes do, dear hypocrite

please, be grateful that they play. attitudes like this are the reason CS is dying.

I don't need to be grateful that they play lol, I mean I have 0 issues with IC anyway, I have issues with king, he's rude and disrespectful for 0 reason. I'd honestly rather he didn't play, but to say we purposely sabotaged IC is ridiculous

Tbh, Gary is one of the reasons.

Yes obviously king, good logic. Can you say anything that isn't just repeating xCs or trash talk? Can we get back on track now please.

How smart you are a friend, after you start deviating from the main topic, you want to look mature.

Let's go back to the main topic, all maps can be chosen;

Everyone has vetoes to veto maps that they don't like, they need to think, to know what maps to veto, if they don't want to have CBA / Hero in TG Round.

If I choose CBA (Immunity) /CBA Hero, they can veto me CBA hero.

They must think well what maps to veto, so that do not have maps on which did not want to play.

The vote is on Should zotten/lustful be put into the same category as cba/cba hero and Dodgeball?

Who voted for dodgeball, cba / cba hero were in that category?

No map should be included without prior discussion.

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CBA/CBA Hero cant be picked in same round, both versions of dodgeball cant be picked in the same round.

The vote is on whether Zotten and Lustful should be classed the same way as in both cant be picked in the same round.

From the beginning,I don't know why we inherited rules that were discussed by clans of 2016..

I don't see any rules for bloods, even though many maps look alike, and have the same gameplay, did I miss something?

Why we are doing groups if we are just 8 teams and we know the 4 clans (90% chance) will make it to the semi finals? it takes so much time.

can we just use double elimination? it will save so much time and avoid top clans playing two matches vs weaker clan just for points

it will be something like this [You must login to view link]
I made these seeding same how it is now so Dave and Army efforts dont go away, group 1 top brackets and group 2 bottom, the next matches not changing from how it is now.

I get your point but even by the bracket above it only shortens it by 2 weeks. I think the longer we have the tourney as well it helps other practice longer, helps promote custom for longer, plus helps promote a wide variety of maps and gets players trying new maps for longer. In theory it should help players become better all round players.

On another note especially havent just watched a number of ab games in a row in 1v1 i think it would be a good idea just for the 1v1 round that if ab is picked to have it as a bo3. Both sides played and fastest to win picking the decider. I think we may have done in the last one? Thoughts?

Don't think it was, definitely wasn't in random decider when AB came up in 2016. I kinda think where do you draw the line AB/Khans/Nova/Smosh/Lustful etc.. all can be tossup maps where 1 small errors loses you the game. I honestly think people would rather see more 2v2/3v3 maps rather than BO3 for 1 map in 1v1, i.e. 1v1 BO3, 2v2 BO5, 3v3 BO5.